30 thoughts on “jpeg codecs: SAMSUNG vs SONY ERICSSON , little comparison

  1. i am downloading this.. lets see u r right abt the codec or not..

    man those two codecs are DIFFERENT
    they’re SAMSUNG vs SE

    my article was to tell that ALL SAMSUNG CODECS ARE THE SAME…
    obviously samsung are different from se…

  2. ok.. but according to u sony hav better one… lets see…

    Never said that..
    I use the codec which has been suggested by my friends at ipmart-forum.it
    but I have never tested them…

  3. u said Dictionary, sensors, shutter sound…. EVERYTHING IS WORKING NOW.. dictionary ok i understand.. wat do u mean by sensors working and shutter sound now working….

    sensor : Silence music and Silence Videos options are back
    shutter sound: you don’t have to select shutter sound 3 to mute the camera, just select silent profile

  4. i didnt find special in one than the other.. both r same.. isnt it..

    yep more or less…they’re very similar…just samsung’s one seems a bit more defined imho…

  5. dude wat is qt… i just saw on youtube.. do u see qt.. its from nokia..

    it is a wonderful framework…but there only 1 or 2 apps made in QT because it is a new thing…

  6. I think I prefer Samsung over SE codec (like when I tried SE codec when it first came out)… ‘unfortunatly’ for me, I have VIvaz one embeded on mine… is there a way to get a hand on Samsung one without re-flashing my phone? πŸ˜‰ I don’t need no tutorial how to make it works etc, just a codec itself…

    I know I’m mean, but… πŸ˜€

    do you think it is worth making the change?…
    there you go πŸ˜‰

  7. Can t realy tell the difference. It deppends on how firmly you hold the phone when you re taking pictures. For example photos 20 and 26 taken with the vivaz codec. While the second resembles the one taken with the samsung codec, the first is very bad.
    I would say that in good light conditions, the colors are better in the vivaz codec, but in low light the samsung outperforms.

    I included 26 for that reason, because the first one was my fault…so I included both…

  8. I do agree with coldone.
    To my eyes, there are just slight differences in color – might be caused by a slightly different white balance due to minor changes in shooting conditions. Resolution (here: sharpness) is identical, but both codecs show that characteristic, disturbing blur of shades of green.
    I can’t share coldones opinion regarding the Samsung codec leading at low-light conditions; could be just shake of hand which caused the Vivaz pictures to appear a bit more blurred.
    But if I’d get asked which codec I’d prefer and if I really had to make a decision, I’d still choose the Samsung one. Not because I see real advantages; just because it’s the same name on it as on the i8910. πŸ™‚

  9. hey dude, where to put the Samsung codec. in the sense to change. in folder

    C:/System/Data, then activate C2Z, set it to auto, and reboot..

  10. Thanks for sharing default Samsung codec man. Tomorrow I’ll give it a go re ‘bleeding light’ situations… That is what was bogging me since I’m using Vivaz one… then again, it might be so Samsung will perform just the same… will try it out in the morning πŸ™‚

    the strange thing is that only some people have problems with light with vivaz codec… 😐

  11. Faenil the diferences are minimal although liiiitle more color and a liiiitle more sharpness in favor of Samsung codec the colors of tiles in your foto seems more natural ,but only you can say if the colors are the most correct in relation to the original.

  12. Ok, I experimented a bit and imho Samsung produces slightly better color response in real life situation with good light over Vivaz, but just slightly… nothing that one can’t live with… Sharpness and other aspects are pretty same to naked eye as far as I’m concerned. As for light bleeding situations, both perform the same and colors, sharpness and details in such conditions are with so tiny differences one should measure them with professional tools etc. I’m not willing to sacrifice stability of my phone by having to add C2Z in auto as Vivaz JPEG codec suits me fine on this FW. I won’t switch codecs or FWs just cause of one codec being installed instead of another, though being puritan and still being able to percept that slight difference in both codec produced pictures, I would opt for Samsung codec in the next FW. W/E you choose you can’t go wrong πŸ˜€ Both codecs are performing good and it all depends of what you would expect of photos to be.

  13. fellow i hav one problem.. i dont know hot to get my media wirelessly on laptop.. i hav seen video on youtube.. that a guys connects to XBMC software and share the phone data wirelessly.. i hav downloaded XBMC.. but i dont know the setting.. if u know then plz help..

  14. @dude
    Go to WLAN-Wizard, select Options -> Start DLNA -> select content to be shared.
    In XBMC go to specified content and add folder UPnP-Device i8910.
    Do not forget to specify the memory location in i8910 -> Options -> Settings, when you are
    in that connection screen that shows XBMC connected.
    Also to refresh content always switch the content (Pics, Videos or Music) off and on again
    via Options -> Settings in the same screen on i8910.
    Remember also that you can only watch videos in video-menu of XBMC not in picture or music-menu.
    You always have to go to the right selection.
    You cannot play content from PC in i8910. Greetings Psykitt

  15. Fevves: Thanks for checking this.
    But here’s some concerns…
    1) As I already prayed multiple times, differences won’t show with common motifs; real differences show with nature pictures with lots of shades of green. You’ll notice that everything on photos will be sharp and clear, but greens turn out blurred and ugly.
    2) As we don’t know the effect of JPEG compression, it’s more or less senseless comparing that two codecs. Maybe there ARE striking differences – but all of them might get rendered to insignificance by JPEG compression.

    If it were possible to switch off JPEG compression completely (RAW or TIF format), we could really do some sound comparison.
    But without, you’ll never know if camera codec or JPEG compression is the real bad guy. :/

  16. dude I don’t get that – of course you can share images via DLNA with XBMC.
    All I wanted to say is that you cannot watch videos or hear music in picture-menu of XBMC,
    although the folders were displayed.
    To do that you only have to choose the correct menu in XBMC and add the i8910 there too.
    Greetings Psykitt

  17. As far as the comparison is concerned imho i would go with vivaz codec cus of its natural looking shots. I believe that’s what u got on JD1 LS1.6 right now. The samsung codec tends to be over digitalized…that is just like the same color separation and recognition technology u see in their tvs.
    On another note i believe there is a lossless jpeg compression codec available out there…now whether it works with the i8910 i’m not sure. of and i dont think we would be able to extract raw image files from the phone…i believe the i8910 does compression on the fly…so it never really writes out the raw files….i could be wrong?

    And one more thing, i remember Andy was busy tweaking a whole bunch of things for his HX V3 Speed FW but i’m surprised that his videos are encoded at a staggering 9.67mbps bitrate and ur videos are at 7.6mbps? why such huge difference?
    ur go>..

    mbits means nothing πŸ˜‰ It can be easily changed in the settings txt…
    I just decided not to do it… πŸ™‚
    too many mbits will just create video noise…

  18. macjon: Raw files are just not practical in every day use, their tremendous size being the reason.
    But Raw files would be the prerequisite to being able to do a real comparison of camera codecs, not influenced by the JPEG encoding which might blend all noticeable codec differences into the same blurry outcome.
    With JPEG compression enabled, Samsung and Vivaz codecs look just the same to me; watch the green elements on the river scene and on the street scene: Nice contrasting, sharp buildings and other details, but almost identically blurred shades of green. :/
    That’s why I suspect JPEG compression being the bad boy; not the codec.

    Regarding that different video compression rates: Both firmwares do a nice job, but they both don’t deliver real smooth video performance: Dropped (skipped) frames, resulting in jerky pictures if fast movements are involved. So I guess we may disregard the pure numbers. πŸ™‚

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