Do you prefer a base version with international keyboard, or a base version with only english keyboard, and you get extra keyboards when you flash you langpack? (only one langpack at a time can be used)
VOTE FAST! 🙂
if you chose base version with english keyboard, remember that you won’t be able to use languages which are not included in the langpacks
THIS IS THE ANSWER ADONIX (PNHT MEMBER) PUBLICLY POSTED ON THE SAME FORUM (dailymobile). IF YOU’RE NOT INTERESTED JUST DO NOT READ THIS POST AND DO NOT SPAM WITH INSULTS! THANKS!!
READ THIS WHOLE MESSAGE TOO IF YOU’RE INTERESTED!
Hi fonix,
First of all, i’m really sorry that you’r leaving the Symbian platform.
I truly consider you a dear friend, but i guess that you have been so harsh on PNHT and i feel obligated to reply and clarify things out (although i don’t like this kind of stuff).
1- Regarding stealing FPSX file format from Marco: When i first started exploring the FPSX file format and discovered the 54 packets, i wasn’t even aware of a tool called BB5 extractor by Hex. Szakalit joined me on this task and, together with him, we discovered the meaning of fields in the 54 packets. Lots of this has been shared here on DMF. Marco (il.socio), even having the sources of BB5 Extractor, he didn’t have cracked the full file format and he turned to us for some info, which Szakalit shared with him. If it wasn’t the case, then Marco should have released his NokiaCooker long before PNHT released NokiaEditor. Otherwise, why there were no tools to cook BB5 firmwares before NokiaEditor? Even if I and Szakalit weren’t aware of Hex’s tool, we did all the discoveries by OURSELVES! I’m not trying to attack Marco by any means here, just to make things clear;
2- Regarding Credit: If we weren’t aware of BB5 extractor or of any of Marco’s work, how could we credit them?? Plus, i’m not even aware till now that Marco did take BB5 extractor and released it again (after all, i’m newbie to Symbian world December 2009).
3- Regarding Omnia HS: i wasn’t directly involved in this project and i don’t have too many details; But let me tell you something: I have passed days analyzing symbian executables file format both E32Image and ROMImage just to be able to convert ROM files to E32Image files (Yes, convert rom files to their original state). If i didn’t succeed in doing that, neither Omnia HS nor C6/N97 porting was even possible! You are fully aware of the files that Steven supplied to rem_dem and you truly must’ve asked yourself “Where did these files came from!!??”. I repeat, without these files, none would have succeeded porting the HS. However, at the same time, if you have worked on this and rem and steven continued the job, this truly gives you Credit, and lilian too. I guess in this case and because of lack of info, PNHT did make a mistake by not Crediting you guys. So, i’m apologizing for this inconvenient.
4- Regarding N97/C6: you stated that PNHT asked for help on this project and no one was credited. First, we did thank everyone for their support hundreds of times. Second, none of the provided files worked, plus, we had already tried lots of these. Only my ROM converter did the job and made this possible. If you think that’s not the case, i’m asking you and others to port N97 FW now to 5800 since you have base files or it. Plus, i really didn’t like the way you attacked our beta testers. Was your attacked based on you not been chosen to betatest?
5- Even if you had the idea to port C6, do you think that this would be even possible without a partitioned 5800 FW and converted rom files!?? Never! So, did PNHT steal CORE file hack from Marco too? Did we also steal FW partitioning? I think that you exaggerated things a little.
6- “PNHT gets lots of donations”: Ok, now we didn’t want to talk about that, but since you opened the subject, i’ll have to comment. When we first announced N97 porting to 5800 we received too many Moral support and zero donation (not to mention insults and some people doubting our job). Everyone said “Release so that we donate”. We released the FW and do you know how much donations we received out of the hundred of promises and from thousands that are using this FW??? We received 156 euros from the release date till now! This including both paypal (someone donated 50 euro), sms and google ADS! Did you or anyone seeing us complaining about that? No! Yet, we are trying to provide support to users and ignoring some attacks from time to time. So i ask, where did the promises go? Did we get rich? Was the enormous time that we spent on porting this FW and coding the tools correctly sponsored?
7- “for the work they didn’t even do”: I won’t even want to comment this out! What’s so sad isn’t your post, but rather the support you have got from users who are using our work/tools. This is really sad and in this world, apparently no one feels ashamed anymore!
Finally,
I think that after reading your post and seeing users reaction, maybe we PNHT should retire. This way, we won’t steel anyone’s job/work and at the same time, we will be happy because we will do new stuff for ourself only since few seems to believe in us or our work.Everyone seems to have a pleasure attacking us, but they often forget that it’s PNHT who brought back phone hacking to life (although using rompatcher) and without our hard work, Nokia FW cooking for BB5 was still a dream and even better, seeing C6/N97 on 5800/5530 was also a dream since Nokia won’t ever release them to these phones.
I wish you best of luck in your new community and please, don’t take my reply personally.
Edit:
I forgot to say that many many users use our stuff, like widgetizer, autoinstaller, NFE and C6 and we see few who gives us credit. Should we started crying about that??
AdoniX
PNHT
THIS POST QUOTES THE WORDS OF FONIX232, ONE OF THE BIGGEST SYMBIAN MODDERS WHO HAS NOW SHIFTED PLATFORM BECAUSE OF THE SAD REASONS YOU’LL READ IN THE EMAIL.
PLEASE READ THE WHOLE MESSAGE.
Today is the sad day when I quit the Symbian community.
It has many reason I chose this. First of all, the huge selfishness what popped up in the community in the last year. When I came to Symbian two years ago, it was all about modding, sharing discoveries, and all modders, programmers, users were equal, and friendly. And now when I look around, I only see selfishness all around, everyone who knows a little bit won’t share it with the others, and people aren’t making THEIR stuff, but instead stealing it from other forums, from other users. Just as an example, the new NaviFirm 0.3, what says it is developed by a Turkish/Arabian/other guy (sorry I’m not too good in recognizing languages by names), and there is no any sign of the original developer, who discovered the Nokia site’s API; or the Samsung Omnia Widget homescreen. But about this last one, I will tell you a bit later.
Second, the bullshit of PNHT. Promising through months, using people, not giving credit, stealing other people’s stuff. What do you think, Marco (Il.Socio) why stopped working on it? No, it isn’t because of the “no support received”, I tell you! It is because our dear PNHT (exception goes on rem_dm, who is a good fella, and wasn’t working with them that time, and Adonix, who is a great friend too – he worked on his own) took his discoveries about the FPSX format and published the app made by it without ANY CREDIT (I’m not saying the whole format is by Marco – first part of it was from an application made by HeX some years ago. Of course I can’t see his name either anywhere). Or talk about the Samsung Widget homescreen. Who worked months on it? Who? Of course not steven – he just take our last beta release and did his own – but liliantungary and me. We worked hard on it, published every single tests over the forum. And in the finish line, how suprising, PNHT jumps in, and claims they did it. I had some fixes I did not share, what fixed redbug and volume bug, increased battery life, and without changing anything in gadget.swf. And don’t even ask for them, I will NOT share anything else. Not anymore. Those fixes can be found in a public CFW made by one of my friends, you can find it searching some Hungarian Nokia forums. Good luck with it! Then there is the C6 firmware porting. I had this in my mind even before the first firmware of the phone was published. The day it was released I asked steven for it – I got a negative answer. Ok, that’s not the problem, but there is something else. You may remember the post where they ask for help from us to find the missing drivers, etc, for their firmware. Of course no inside beta release, so we had to wait hours, maybe days to have some feedback. Then, of course, PNHT fixed all the bugs, using our files, our research, without credit. And naturally who is asked for the beta testing? Not those people who KNOWS how to debug, how to track bugs, errors, and other, not those who have helped a lot, but some who never ever worked on something like this, never ever did debug! I’m not talking about lilian, or MR. X, but the people like shadowninty. No, bro, I am not against you, I am just telling that you were not ready for such a job. But why ask the guy who knows Symbian very well, and has experience, and good ideas?
Oh and do not mention PNHT gets lots of donations for the work they didn’t even do. And when asked, what do they share? Buggy tools and releases, crappy unusable shit, and so on. Many of their projects are discontinued, and left people with a buggy last release, without proper crediting to the ones who committed to it.
Then, there are the dumb users. The users who can’t use the search feature, who spam 10 threads with the same question, and asks again after a page even if their question is answered, who can’t speak proper english (I am not saying I am perfect. I know I have grammar problems, I admit it. I am talking about those who’s first/tenth/xth post’s content is “I WANT IT NAO” or something similar). I keep getting PMs from unknown people, who dare to not just ask nicely about something, but demand, command something on me. These people freaks me out. Two years ago it was a RULE to read, and re-read at least three times, and ask just after it. Now, looks like, this is gone. I want it back!
Now as a last point, dictatorship. If you aren’t so blind, you can see that PNHT are overhelming us, using the users, the developers, as tools. When they need us, they are nice, treating us as their favorite ones, but after we finish the job, we are nothing. A good example is MR. X. – he was asked to beta test the C6 firmware. Under the tests he was treated like a real member of PNHT, got any updates he asked for. After the release, when he asked PNHT about an APAC port of C6 – he got no answer. Not even a negative one, just no reply. I hope this is a deterrent example!
So as a little index, why I leave:
– Stealing
– No respect to the REAL developers
– Dictatorship of self-appointed people who did nothing but stealing.
I am sorry that the old community is over. A year ago we were all like brothers, and now we live like a bureaucratic dictatory. I had enough of this. So I am off, I quit. I already got a new phone and joined Android community with my HTC G1. I’m happy with it, compared to my old 5800 it is double as fast, at least ten times better, and I could continue. I will NOT come back, maybe after the release of Symbian^4 – that may change many things. Of course I will watch the happenings – I always do – and if I see that there are people who think like me, and want to resist this change, turn it back, or something like that, I will help. Not with releases, with modding, but with words. Just like this post. It isn’t really about my leaving – it is about opening the eye of the people. My last try, my last chance to help – and I want to use it. It depends on you what you choose – I can’t do it for you. It is all you, alone, but together, against the supressors. Until I can’t see the change, but the respect to the developers, or let me correct, the deficiency of respect, I will not do anything but sit and laugh. If you have a bigger IQ than a snail, you will do what I wrote about. It isn’t for me to come back – it is for your freedom.
If this state changes, and only then, I will come back and help.
Oh and for you to see what you lost:
– All my mods. I won’t release them to ANYONE. A fast table of contens: Omnia widget hs port (without touchwiz widgets) what does not need Omnia flash, a proper and full Satio/Vivaz SE HS with flash background support, the modified omniahs binaries patched by me, a lot of info about Symbian^3, N8, and other stuff, the new firmware file format of the Nokia N8 (already cracked uda and rofs2), and a lot more.
– All my knowledge. I will not help anyone with Symbian, any Symbian stuff, any modding or anything. At least not here. I may post about stuff over SF, and some other forum, but I do no more development or help.
– Me. I think it is enough itself, without the first two options.
So please think about it. Think about your status, your position here, and think what you would have become if you came a few years ago. If you feel you are underestimated, used, and you are not happy with this, FIGHT. For yourself, for the community.
OR, if you are an Android owner, you can ask for help. Not here, in PM, and I will help.
Do you think the background is too colourful? would you like to change the background with a picture of your own?
YOU CAN DO IT! 🙂
Apart from being completely UPGRADABLE WITHOUT REFLASHING, the faenilator also gives you the possibility to change the background!! 🙂
Just change the file in E:/data/faenil-graphics/   😀
there is one file for the portrait mode, and one for the landscape mode 😉 size is 360×640 for portrait, and 640×360 for landscape
Send me some sample customization and I’ll publish them in this post! 😉
ENJOY!